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Game Thread | No. 15 Notre Dame at Clemson

November 4, 2023
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No. 15 Notre Dame (7-2) at Clemson (4-4)

Memorial Stadium | 12:00 PM ET | ABC | Line: Notre Dame -3.0| O/U: 44.5

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Five Players To Watch

Notre Dame DT Rylie Mills
The right guard position has been a problem for Clemson all season. It looks like both guard positions could be an issue with their best linemen, left guard Marcus Tate, rumored to be out as well. With left tackle Collin Sadler banged up, that means Tristan Leigh probably has to move back to tackle and Clemson will have to play two backups at both guard spots. Things aren't getting any easier for them against Notre Dame's duo at defensive tackle either. Mills has a big opportunity to dominate that match up.

Clemson QB Cade Klubnik
Klubnik came in for one series against Notre Dame last season and it was a memorable one for all the wrong reasons. He threw a pick to Benjamin Morrison and then never played again. He's had a rough season behind a bad offensive line. His nine fumbles lead the nation and he's fifth in the country in balls batted at the line of scrimmage. 

Notre Dame TE Holden Staes
With Mitchell Evans out for the season, Staes has a chance to fill his shoes as a go-to option on 3rd down. What Evans does as a whole will be replaced by committee, but his emergence as the top receiving threat on the team means those targets have to go to someone else with Staes as the prime candidate to receive them.

Clemson DT Tyler Davis
The Irish ran the ball at will against Clemson to close out their 2022 match up. Davis was on the field for that and no doubt he and his teammates have been reminded about that for the past year. One of the best defensive tackles in the country, Notre Dame's interior offensive line will have to play their best road game of the season to block him and fellow DT Ruke Orhororo.

Notre Dame CB Benjamin Morrison
Last year's Clemson game was Morrison's coming out party as a big-time player. Klubink loves to throw to the boundary, which means Morrison should be targeted frequently and there should be more opportunities for him to get his hands on the football.


Quotes of the Week

Notre Dame head coach Marcus Freeman:
”I view it as just the logistics, the timeline in terms of when do you go to bed, you move your meetings up a little bit earlier on Friday. You try to get them to go to sleep a little bit earlier Friday night and then you wake them up. You have to make sure there's not this progression from when you wake up to finally get in a play like you do maybe with 3:30 games or a night game. 

“It's we wake up and we have to stimulate our body. We have to get going the minute you get downstairs. We'll still have a little walkthrough that we usually have on noon games, but the mindset when you wake up has to be OK, we gotta get ready to go.”

Notre Dame offensive coordinator Gerad Parker:
”Of course the same defensive coordinator and staff, that all exists. Much like us there’s a lot to pull from that’s similar and the same and then there’s enough to pull from where you have to say, ‘Okay, here are some changes they’ve made’ that have made them in our opinion, better.” 

Notre Dame defensive coordinator Al Golden:
“I think, obviously, there's a big span in there, just playing them last year, just perimeter speed, length on the perimeter, big-time tight ends, a quarterback that can move and multiple running backs. They make you defend the whole width of the field. They can take the top off of it with speed, and they can get the ball underneath and make you miss. So, it's a challenging group.”  

Notre Dame QB Sam Hartman:
”Being 0-5 is probably on the other side of that scale. I think it's a new year. We're going down in a hostile environment playing a really, really good football team. The record doesn't say that, but I went through every single one of their games and they're all close, one-score games. We're gonna have to go play on the road and one of the greatest environments in college football, so it's going to be a challenge. That's why you come here. That's why you play at this place. That's why the games in November matter is because people remember November. To go down there and try and execute at the highest level will be an extremely difficult challenge, and I believe we will be up for it.”

Notre Dame RB Jadarian Price:
“The mindset doesn’t change. Going through the process every week, the mindset never changes. I’m still going to practice hard every week. So is every other running back in our room. We know it might be unexpected how the rotation goes. It’s just how the game goes. The good thing about that is you don’t know what to expect, so you’re always locked in. My name could be called (snaps) at any second. Someone could go down at any second, and I know that I’m locked in. I know every single job. It’s not one person knows this set of jobs, the other running backs know this. No. All the running backs know all the jobs. It’s a good thing that we all have that knowledge and skillset, so whenever our name is called we can get it, even though we don’t have a set rotation or routine.” 

Notre Dame S Xavier Watts: 
”Ive played safety for two years or it’s like my first full year starting. So, just trying to take it to the next level. Just trying to become a veteran, I guess. So, like you said, just watching a lot more film, meeting with coaches a lot more, just studying more, studying more tendencies and just being more confident coming into the game. Like, ‘Alright, I’m that guy. I can make these type of plays. So, just go out there and show it and do it’.” 

TEAM STATS

STAT NOTRE DAME CLEMSON
Total Yards 427.9 416.6
Passing  264.0 259.0
Rushing 164.0 157.6
Yards Allowed 279.9 266.9
Passing Allowed 158.6 167.8
Rushing Allowed 121.0 99.0

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blairkiel
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donahue said:

rmirish said:

Pulling Estime for 2 series really puzzles me. How many teams pull their best back, who is having a great day, for two series?


No clue, but this reeks of analytics to me
I'm sure the intent was to pick up a first down and insert him back in

Unfortunately, offensively we suck nuts so he sat
trentb
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irishtank6900 said:

java said:

irishtank6900 said:

irish0821 said:

Probably a conversation for later, but do we get a transfer QB again?


They freaking better.
Yes, because the Hartman experiment has been such a success. The truly elite QB transfers are going to be underclassmen and that's not happening at ND


So you think it is a better idea to start Angeli or Minchey? Just wondering, so we have this on record in case it happens (it won't).


I don't know. In limited viewing Angeli doesn't do dumb stuff.

If you are losing either way, yeah I'd rather play the kid with 3 years of eligibility who doesn't do dumb stuff and see if he starts doing dumb stuff.

Hartman has a higher floor and we are at that floor.
pjcaulfield
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The bigger problem is the horrific play calling. Clemson's defense is excellent.
irishtank6900
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Jaxdulac said:

Parker is Freeman's Van Gorder.


I honestly don't think Parker is that bad, but it's close enough to make the tough decision at the end of the year to let his friend go.
TripperHarrison
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Time for my meds.
irishtank6900
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trentb said:

irishtank6900 said:

java said:

irishtank6900 said:

irish0821 said:

Probably a conversation for later, but do we get a transfer QB again?


They freaking better.
Yes, because the Hartman experiment has been such a success. The truly elite QB transfers are going to be underclassmen and that's not happening at ND


So you think it is a better idea to start Angeli or Minchey? Just wondering, so we have this on record in case it happens (it won't).


I don't know. In limited viewing Angeli doesn't do dumb stuff.

If you are losing either way, yeah I'd rather play the kid with 3 years of eligibility who doesn't do dumb stuff and see if he starts doing dumb stuff.

Hartman has a higher floor and we are at that floor.


Angeli has only played up 30+ points against horrible teams. Those reps should count for very little. Everyone that has watched him in practice thinks he's a game manager at QB. That isn't going to cut it.
pjcaulfield
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Well, today Hartman has been abysmal.
blairkiel
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irishtank6900 said:

Jaxdulac said:

Parker is Freeman's Van Gorder.


I honestly don't think Parker is that bad, but it's close enough to make the tough decision at the end of the year to let his friend go.
He's pretty much in Jim Coletto Bill Dietrich territory
ndsean44
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irishinutah said:

theoriginalndmom said:

How bad can Angeli or Minchey be that we need another transfer?


It's not Hartman…it's a bad receiver corps and an oline that can't pass block…none of them
It's Hartman dude.

Dude continues to miss open looks from the receivers in favor of lower percentage passes, and it hasn't worked at all.

Not saying any of that is wrong, but Hartman is doing his offense zero favors.
Joe1976
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pjcaulfield said:

Well, today Hartman has been abysmal.
The whole team except Estime and our kicker have been abysmal.
bluechip
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Hate to say it, but Mike frank warned us the mush was going to the game. Should've bet my life savings on Clemson.

Also 88% of DraftKings money was on ND, Vegas always knows.
blairkiel
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ndsean44 said:

irishinutah said:

theoriginalndmom said:

How bad can Angeli or Minchey be that we need another transfer?


It's not Hartman…it's a bad receiver corps and an oline that can't pass block…none of them
It's Hartman dude.

Dude continues to miss open looks from the receivers in favor of lower percentage passes, and it hasn't worked at all.

Not saying any of that is wrong, but Hartman is doing his offense zero favors.
As Matt freeman likes to say

There's a reason he's in his sixth year
joirish
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Well looking on the bright side Mike will be in great form on the post game show.
donahue
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blairkiel said:

donahue said:

rmirish said:

Pulling Estime for 2 series really puzzles me. How many teams pull their best back, who is having a great day, for two series?


No clue, but this reeks of analytics to me
I'm sure the intent was to pick up a first down and insert him back in


Could be. I was thinking more on terms of number of carries, similar to what's done in baseball. Never mind that the pitcher's only allowed a few hits, is pitching a shutout and looking strong, bring in the reliever in the 6th because the pitch count says to do it.
Cassin
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irishtank6900 said:

trentb said:

irishtank6900 said:

java said:

irishtank6900 said:

irish0821 said:

Probably a conversation for later, but do we get a transfer QB again?


They freaking better.
Yes, because the Hartman experiment has been such a success. The truly elite QB transfers are going to be underclassmen and that's not happening at ND


So you think it is a better idea to start Angeli or Minchey? Just wondering, so we have this on record in case it happens (it won't).


I don't know. In limited viewing Angeli doesn't do dumb stuff.

If you are losing either way, yeah I'd rather play the kid with 3 years of eligibility who doesn't do dumb stuff and see if he starts doing dumb stuff.

Hartman has a higher floor and we are at that floor.


Everyone that has watched him in practice thinks he's a game manager at QB. That isn't going to cut it.


I'm not advocating for Angeli, but it seems like our offensive philosophy is designed for a game manager.
ndsean44
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pjcaulfield said:

The bigger problem is the horrific play calling. Clemson's defense is excellent.
Not that it isn't a problem, but the pass plays have been fine. Hartman is missing HARD on guys that are open and he can throw to them for much more manageable plays. Instead, he's throwing lower percentage plays and forcing receivers to make plays on the ball when the easier option is there.

Play calling in the run game, that's a different story.
Brucealeg
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ndsean44 said:

irishinutah said:

theoriginalndmom said:

How bad can Angeli or Minchey be that we need another transfer?


It's not Hartman…it's a bad receiver corps and an oline that can't pass block…none of them
It's Hartman dude.

Dude continues to miss open looks from the receivers in favor of lower percentage passes, and it hasn't worked at all.

Not saying any of that is wrong, but Hartman is doing his offense zero favors.
The best way to find out is to play Angeli, this isnt working. You maybe give Hartman a series, then make a call.
blairkiel
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donahue said:

blairkiel said:

donahue said:

rmirish said:

Pulling Estime for 2 series really puzzles me. How many teams pull their best back, who is having a great day, for two series?


No clue, but this reeks of analytics to me
I'm sure the intent was to pick up a first down and insert him back in


Could be. I was thinking more on terms of number of carries, similar to what's done in baseball. Never mind that the pitcher's only allowed a few hits, is pitching a shutout and looking strong, bring in the reliever in the 6th because the pitch count says to do it.
I hear ya

Overmanaging is a plague

Started by Tony Larussa
Joe1976
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well, first things first.. ND needs a 3-out or something, get the ball back and make this a one score game.
Joe1976
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Need a turnover.
Cassin
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Joe1976 said:

Need a turnover.


Close
mattfreeman
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Staff
Clemson 3rd-and-4: XAVIER WATTS PICK.
Cassin
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Joe1976 said:

Need a turnover.


There it is
Jaxdulac
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Needed that. But he didn't score. First down at two. Do you kick the FG?
cousin eddie
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Line everyone up tight
trentb
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Maybe always play 20 on defense
irishdane20
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For the love of God, score a touchdown.
Rwolf101
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Needed that! Watts is a vacuum in that secondary. We're fortunate to have him!
Joe1976
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Thanks Lord!
Cassin
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Jaxdulac said:

Needed that. But he didn't score. First down at two. Do you kick the FG?


Definitely. Need to save time for the next 6 FGs.
theoriginalndmom
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Finally, something goes our way….yes!!!
mattfreeman
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Staff
Audric Estime 2-yard touchdown run.

No. 15 Notre Dame 16
Clemson 24

13:57 | 3Q
ndsean44
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Our offensive MVP has arrived.
tsnafus
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at halftime i changed into my lucky ND gamewatch ensemble. apologies for not wearing it in the first half!
mjhahn
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Right back in it. Exactly what needed to happen. Clemson has blown games this year - let's plant that seed some more.
 
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